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+date: 2012-12-16T00:00:00Z
+title: About DevOps
+---
+
+There's a lot of talk about what is or what is not DevOps, and I'll
+throw my opinion in the mix.
+
+Until a few weeks ago, at [work](http://saymedia.com), we had mostly
+two teams: the engineering team and the ops team. Our workflow was
+(to simplify) the following:
+
+ * engineers develop services and applications
+ * they push their change to Jenkins
+ * a build pass and is pushed to CI
+ * a few times a week, engineers ask Ops to push the change to
+ production
+
+There's already a lot of articles about the kind of frictions created
+by this (who owns what; engineers would blame ops when the push was
+failing (or the other way around); it's hard for ops to know what's
+wrong when something is broken in production; etc).
+
+A few weeks ago it was decided to create a new team to improve
+engineers efficiency, and the team was named "DevOps". At first I was
+not sure it was the right name for this team, but now I don't think it
+matters.
+
+I was not sure the name was appropriate because of this
+[article](http://continuousdelivery.com/2012/10/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-devops-team/)
+(and a few other to respond), explaining why you don't want a DevOps
+team, but instead you want the whole organization to be DevOps. We
+need engineers to own their applications, to be able to push when they
+want, but also to monitor, know what's wrong or slow, etc.
+
+The **work** [hachi](https://github.com/hachi) and I will have to do is to
+help engineers and ops to *be* the DevOps. Our team responsibility is
+to choose, evaluate and integrate tools. We will also provide
+libraries, documentation, training and support. *We* are not the
+DevOps. Our **goals** are to create this culture, to give more
+responsibilities to engineers, and to free Ops from the work of
+pushing code. The **success** of this team will be measured by the
+adoption of our work by engineers and ops.
+
+So yes, I agree that you don't want a dedicated DevOps team, but you
+still need a team coming from different background (hachi is coming
+from Ops and I'm an engineer) to build that culture.